Comments on: Rooting Against the Flyers and Sharks http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/ forechecking, backchecking, cycling ... and other (Washington) Capital ideas Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:43:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: MD http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16457 MD Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:58:57 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16457 Tom: I believe it was Dean Martin who said that, not Frank. P.S. - - Anyone else feel like Kozlov never actually showed up for the playoffs? What was up with that. Just adds to my previously-stated "If only we'd had Laing for the PK" lament. Tom: I believe it was Dean Martin who said that, not Frank.

P.S. - - Anyone else feel like Kozlov never actually showed up for the playoffs? What was up with that. Just adds to my previously-stated “If only we’d had Laing for the PK” lament.

]]> By: Tom in FL http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16454 Tom in FL Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:57:44 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16454 Anthony: Nylander was supposedly fine until the injury, which occurred as reported in late November against the Panthers. He is a good player, I remember him with NYR the year before, like 85 points. Good numbers. He's not a bruiser, though. I would love him on the team as #2 center if Federov doesn't return. If Federov comes back, though, you have cap troubles (see all the calculations above). The way I figure it, depending on how much the cap goes up, you maybe can't keep both. Or, if you want them to sign/obtain a guy like Brad Stuart, you'd beed to move at least one d-man due to too many players there and you'd also need to move salary. I really didn't realize this situation existed until PVOR posted the Flyers cap situation and I decided to check on the Caps. If it turns out we bring back Huet, Federov and Bradley, and that's it, keep the same defense plus Alzner, that's fine. The Caps can always leave one shortage to be addressed next year at the trade deadline. It's good to know that from here on out we are BUYERS at deadline time. You get a guy at the deadline, and his cap charge is only 1/4th what it would have been had you had him all year. We could even let Federov sit out and come back next year around February, like the Ducks did this year with Niedermayer and Selanne, but then again the Ducks lost. Anthony: Nylander was supposedly fine until the injury, which occurred as reported in late November against the Panthers. He is a good player, I remember him with NYR the year before, like 85 points. Good numbers. He’s not a bruiser, though. I would love him on the team as #2 center if Federov doesn’t return. If Federov comes back, though, you have cap troubles (see all the calculations above). The way I figure it, depending on how much the cap goes up, you maybe can’t keep both. Or, if you want them to sign/obtain a guy like Brad Stuart, you’d beed to move at least one d-man due to too many players there and you’d also need to move salary. I really didn’t realize this situation existed until PVOR posted the Flyers cap situation and I decided to check on the Caps. If it turns out we bring back Huet, Federov and Bradley, and that’s it, keep the same defense plus Alzner, that’s fine. The Caps can always leave one shortage to be addressed next year at the trade deadline. It’s good to know that from here on out we are BUYERS at deadline time. You get a guy at the deadline, and his cap charge is only 1/4th what it would have been had you had him all year. We could even let Federov sit out and come back next year around February, like the Ducks did this year with Niedermayer and Selanne, but then again the Ducks lost.

]]> By: Anthony http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16451 Anthony Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:28:39 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16451 The caps message boards had a french article that someone had translated about Huet (obviously), which was a basically positive article. It indicated he wanted to stay. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/250782.html The caps message boards had a french article that someone had translated about Huet (obviously), which was a basically positive article. It indicated he wanted to stay.

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/250782.html

]]> By: Anthony http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16447 Anthony Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:38:16 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16447 Your not paying much attention then Tom to the rumor/idea that we never really saw the "real" Nylander this year? I think his plus/minus was directly related to his shoulder injury. Your not paying much attention then Tom to the rumor/idea that we never really saw the “real” Nylander this year?

I think his plus/minus was directly related to his shoulder injury.

]]> By: Tom in FL http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16446 Tom in FL Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:36:12 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16446 One more note on this salary cap thing, now that the Caps are apparently up against it: This is like when your wife says you can only spend $40 a week on alcoholic beverages. To those of you who don't drink: As Frank Sinatra said, I'm sorry but that means when you wake up in the morning it's as good as you're going to feel all day. To the rest of you: you only have $40. Five mixed drinks out at $8 each and you are done! And it's only Monday! You can drink once a week at $40 or every night at $5.71 per. You must set your priorities - quantity and quality. Sometimes I just want one Heineken. Other times at the beach you want quantity so I take a 12 of Old Milwaukee. You might want zinfandel with lamb chops or sauvignon blanc with pork tenderloin and sage seasoning or maybe like now I squeezed oranges from the tree and I have mixed in some Cuervo. The bottom line is you need a mix of things at varying prices and in the end they must work within the budget and provide you MAXIMUM VALUE to achieve your objectives. If you understand what I've said you all get 1 credit from Tom in Florida's Economics 101, "The Economics of Hockey and Beer." All of you are expected to do some light drinking and light hockey watching prior to the next class. You are reminded of the words of Henny Youngmann: "I read about the evils of drinking once and I immediately gave up reading." They should carve out a spot on Mt. Rushmore for that man. One more note on this salary cap thing, now that the Caps are apparently up against it:

This is like when your wife says you can only spend $40 a week on alcoholic beverages.

To those of you who don’t drink: As Frank Sinatra said, I’m sorry but that means when you wake up in the morning it’s as good as you’re going to feel all day.

To the rest of you: you only have $40. Five mixed drinks out at $8 each and you are done! And it’s only Monday! You can drink once a week at $40 or every night at $5.71 per. You must set your priorities - quantity and quality. Sometimes I just want one Heineken. Other times at the beach you want quantity so I take a 12 of Old Milwaukee. You might want zinfandel with lamb chops or sauvignon blanc with pork tenderloin and sage seasoning or maybe like now I squeezed oranges from the tree and I have mixed in some Cuervo.

The bottom line is you need a mix of things at varying prices and in the end they must work within the budget and provide you MAXIMUM VALUE to achieve your objectives.

If you understand what I’ve said you all get 1 credit from Tom in Florida’s Economics 101, “The Economics of Hockey and Beer.”

All of you are expected to do some light drinking and light hockey watching prior to the next class. You are reminded of the words of Henny Youngmann:

“I read about the evils of drinking once and I immediately gave up reading.”

They should carve out a spot on Mt. Rushmore for that man.

]]> By: Tom in FL http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16444 Tom in FL Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:07:45 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16444 Hey, I wanted a big, bruising d-man until I crunched the numbers. I still think we might be able to wangle Brad Stuart, depending on who stays, trades and the cap figure. The Caps also have the option if Huet leaves to "go cheap" in goal with Johnny and maybe Cassivi (or Varlamov) and then pick up someone at the deadline. You can pick up a $5M goalie at the deadline and he essentially only costs $1.25M in total cap hit. The one goalie I found interesting as a FA was Conklin at like $500K this past year. You know the Pens will not be able to pay a going rate for him going forward. I do numbers all day in my job (.1 = $100K) so all this cap stuff is as interesting almost as the games themselves. Most times the GM who wins the cap game wins the real game. Erskine is too valuable at $550K not to be in the mix. You also sign Quintin Laing at $500K to be the spare forward. He gives the body so much he nees to sit out 1 of 3 games just so he doesn't die. I would sat=y good-bye to Cookie 'cuz Calrk and Brads (if you sign him) cover what Cookie does. Somehow I want to get Federov back in the mix. To do so, and fit in the cap, I would CONSIDER trading Nylander to Edmonton since they wanted him. OK, so next year you have Backstrom, Federov, Steckel and Gordon as pivots. That worked down the stretch this year, and it would work next year. And if Federov plays for $3M, then you save $2M on the cap. Schultz is really tall but he's like a freakin spider out there with his limbs all akimbo. He's like 6'6" but built like all my bony German ancestors. He needs to eat 18,000 t-bone steaks and lift a million pounds in the weight room and then maybe he'd be a serviceable NHL defenseman. Meanwhile, Erskine is hell on wheels but just not always pointed in the right direction. Which is why we have coaches. Here's my grades for the Cap's organization for 07-08: Owner: A General Manager: A Coach: A Team Skill: B - Team Heart: A Future Prognosis: A Some time after the end of game 7, maybe the next day, we were talking about it all here in our Orlando homestead (to which I've invited you all next year when they play the Lightning) and I told the wife that the finest compliment the Caps received was when an "unnamed" GM of another team said that Ovechkin was "as Canadian as Gordie Howe." Now, as someone who used to fall asleep nights listening to the radio as a little kid in Detroit while Howe played - that is the finest compliment any player could get in hockey. It's as fine a compliment as any player could get in any North American team sports. It's like he's as good a fielder and as nice a guy as Brooks Robinson. This team has only one way to go and that direction is up. Hey, I wanted a big, bruising d-man until I crunched the numbers. I still think we might be able to wangle Brad Stuart, depending on who stays, trades and the cap figure. The Caps also have the option if Huet leaves to “go cheap” in goal with Johnny and maybe Cassivi (or Varlamov) and then pick up someone at the deadline. You can pick up a $5M goalie at the deadline and he essentially only costs $1.25M in total cap hit.

The one goalie I found interesting as a FA was Conklin at like $500K this past year. You know the Pens will not be able to pay a going rate for him going forward.

I do numbers all day in my job (.1 = $100K) so all this cap stuff is as interesting almost as the games themselves. Most times the GM who wins the cap game wins the real game.

Erskine is too valuable at $550K not to be in the mix. You also sign Quintin Laing at $500K to be the spare forward. He gives the body so much he nees to sit out 1 of 3 games just so he doesn’t die. I would sat=y good-bye to Cookie ‘cuz Calrk and Brads (if you sign him) cover what Cookie does. Somehow I want to get Federov back in the mix. To do so, and fit in the cap, I would CONSIDER trading Nylander to Edmonton since they wanted him. OK, so next year you have Backstrom, Federov, Steckel and Gordon as pivots. That worked down the stretch this year, and it would work next year. And if Federov plays for $3M, then you save $2M on the cap.

Schultz is really tall but he’s like a freakin spider out there with his limbs all akimbo. He’s like 6′6″ but built like all my bony German ancestors. He needs to eat 18,000 t-bone steaks and lift a million pounds in the weight room and then maybe he’d be a serviceable NHL defenseman. Meanwhile, Erskine is hell on wheels but just not always pointed in the right direction.

Which is why we have coaches.

Here’s my grades for the Cap’s organization for 07-08:

Owner: A
General Manager: A
Coach: A
Team Skill: B -
Team Heart: A
Future Prognosis: A

Some time after the end of game 7, maybe the next day, we were talking about it all here in our Orlando homestead (to which I’ve invited you all next year when they play the Lightning) and I told the wife that the finest compliment the Caps received was when an “unnamed” GM of another team said that Ovechkin was “as Canadian as Gordie Howe.” Now, as someone who used to fall asleep nights listening to the radio as a little kid in Detroit while Howe played - that is the finest compliment any player could get in hockey. It’s as fine a compliment as any player could get in any North American team sports. It’s like he’s as good a fielder and as nice a guy as Brooks Robinson. This team has only one way to go and that direction is up.

]]> By: Philly Voice of Reason http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16442 Philly Voice of Reason Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:12:06 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16442 Marian Hossa 28 PIT $7,000,000 Are you kidding me? Holy pay-cut next year... Marian Hossa 28 PIT $7,000,000

Are you kidding me? Holy pay-cut next year…

]]> By: Anthony http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16441 Anthony Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:36:37 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16441 I agree, any of the three of them leaving would be fine with me. Personally I think Schultz needs to figure out who he wants to be in the NHL. He doesn't have to be a big body defenseman if he is a better puck moving d-man. I'm not worried per-se about signing Huet, but I'll feel a lot better when its done. I may even shell out the money for a Huet sweater. I agree, any of the three of them leaving would be fine with me. Personally I think Schultz needs to figure out who he wants to be in the NHL. He doesn’t have to be a big body defenseman if he is a better puck moving d-man.

I’m not worried per-se about signing Huet, but I’ll feel a lot better when its done. I may even shell out the money for a Huet sweater.

]]> By: Turk in Alaska http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16440 Turk in Alaska Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:54:59 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16440 Anthony, Not at all... I think we actually agree that Huet is the key FA signing this year. Anything after that and it will have to involve a trade. Personally, I'd like to see Eminger stay and if that entails Jurcina, Schultz, or Erskine being the odd man out then so be it. ~Turk Anthony,

Not at all… I think we actually agree that Huet is the key FA signing this year. Anything after that and it will have to involve a trade. Personally, I’d like to see Eminger stay and if that entails Jurcina, Schultz, or Erskine being the odd man out then so be it.

~Turk

]]> By: Anthony http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16438 Anthony Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:16:30 +0000 http://dumpnchase.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/rooting-against-the-flyers-and-sharks/#comment-16438 Do you guys really honestly believe with potential cap space issues, that GMGM will shell out the money for a defensemen, given Alzner coming up in the wings? Do you guys really honestly believe with potential cap space issues, that GMGM will shell out the money for a defensemen, given Alzner coming up in the wings?

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